The snapchat photo of Abby was taken at 2:07pm and the photo of the Bridge Guy was taken at 2:30pm. Witnessesidentified the hired gunmen as McCall, William Bracy and Murray Hooper, both of Chicago. At first I was leaning towards maybe someone RL knew but I'm shying away from that. Abby (or Abbie) was an informal nickname. It is totally impossible to stand in that area, so we know that's not right. Atsome point, he lived in Ohio, before moving to Phoenix in the 1950s, according to details provided in 1981byhis obituary andby his friend and business partner, Ron Lukezic. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Flags at all state buildings will be lowered to half-staff on Oct.12 to honor Ruiz. [5] Of all the children living in the home, Ame was the only one abused. Both families say that was a tough day for them, knowing Abby and Libby should have been there and weren't. "During a time when men and women in law enforcement face scrutiny, sometimes demonization, or expected to be perfect and underappreciated but a scumbag piece of (expletive) out of the Department of Corrections can put him on life support when he comes to work every day in uniform to keep this community safe," Penzone said on a news conference on Oct. 9. Details of the contract killings trickled out through a series of hearings and trials over the next few years. Is there any truth to this or can we religate it to internet Chinese whispers? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. David Martin Deal was not charged in the death of his daughter, but was sentenced on June 6, 2013, after pleading guilty to attempted child abuse. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. "Because this is not a singular issue.". He said someone knows who the killer is but was keeping quiet because of "extreme fear". The investigation is continuing and no one has been charged. "On Oct. 9, 2021, Deputy Juan Ruiz was simply doing his job and he paid the ultimate price trying to keep our community safe. "Truly heartbreaking. Did Diane Schuler Have Auto Brewery Syndrome? Or maybe he checks out RLs property and watches him leave. [7], Police claimed that the other children instigated situations to get Ame in trouble. Winter Weather: Can Arizona home roofs withstand heavy snowfall? I don't believe he did it, but am curious about his son or people he may know. The homeowner was someone he knew and they reportedly had a history of conflict. Ame Lynn Deal (July 24, 2000 July 12, 2011) was an American 10-year-old girl who was murdered in Phoenix, Arizona, in July 2011. "The bridge is a lot bigger than it looks in photos," said LH, whose fear of heights meant, initially she "crawled across" the 7.5 storey-high structure. By 5pm, the girls' families were out searching for them and by 6pm most the town, which has a population of about 3000, had joined police, but the girls were not found. He is a 77 year old man with a drinking problem. Look at the map of the area and youll see that Ron Logans property is in a perfect spot to pull something like this off. The rumor about the girls wearing scarves at their funeral seems to check out. All of it keeps Libby German's grandpa, Mike Patty, up at night. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Delphi,+IN+46923/@40.5913431,-86.6455829,1354m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x881309e3541d5d2b:0xf17e204b5559ad82!8m2!3d40.5875371!4d-86.6750059, (Ron Logan's property is the same side and closest to the cemetery). The girls bodies were found the following day, approximately half a mile from the bridge. Sad truth is Mr Logan has paid a price for violating his probation while a murderer walks free. Theconviction was again overturned four years later and in 1995 Cruz was acquitted followinga fifth trial. Just days after the girls died, police began looking into Kline, WISH-TV reported. A video taken by a local grandfather of the walk along the Monon High Bridge, recorded four months before the murders, shows just how precarious it is to walk on the structure. She returned to see three men and a gun pointed at her husband. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Memorials Region North America USA Indiana Carroll County Pittsburg TERRAFULLSIGHT 1.61K subscribers Subscribe 1.6K views 1 year ago #DURecorder #DURecorder This is my video recorded with DU Recorder. LH, who has visited the location multiple times, describes in detail the spot where the schoolgirls were abducted on February 13, 2017. "We have a lot of clay here in Indiana so it's like standing on churned butter. There is a more than $175,000 reward offered in the Evansdale case and more than $230,000 available in reward money for the Delphi case. "There is moss growing on some spots where the ties are spongy, likely contributing to the decay. The grandmother of Libby German said the man arrested and accused of killing her granddaughter also was the man who printed off pictures for Libby's funeral. My 6 year old loves that channel. She was either still (barely) alive when searchers found her or had perished just prior to being found (reports alternate between either her passing away in the ambulance or her body still being warm, but deceased, when searchers found her). A friend of mine from Flora, IN says that it's true. Judith Deal and Cynthia Stoltzmann were charged with numerous counts of child abuse. (Would have to be local and have access to someones property by the bridge). [3] One neighbor said that he saw babies in highchairs eating in front, outside of the house, late at night. Experiences deep-seated rage toward women. "We stay positive and we keep moving," Williams said. Shirley claims that while David's family made her a slave to them, called her names and hit her, they did not abuse the children. Cookie Notice May have changed his appearance after the crime (cut or dyed his hair, trimmed facial hair, disposed of clothing, etc). The Evansdale, Iowa murders are eerily similar. If I were him, I would have kindly declined all interviews. And here is why I think its a local or someone who has local access to a property in the area: The navigation to the murder spot. The rumor about the girls wearing scarves at their funeral seems to check out. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. I am a bit suspicious of RL, but I don't think he did it. Newly released interview transcripts of police and one man reveal more details about the investigation into the death of two Indiana teenage girls. attempted murder defendant James Brian Chadwell Jr. allegedly lured a 9-year-old neighborhood girl into his house, killings of teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, it has been reported that he is being investigated for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, Accused child abductor needs medical treatment after jailhouse fight, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. The school officials noted that Ame seemed to be the scapegoat of the family. May have discerned the risk was worth the gain by going after two young girls. ", Glendale Police offered its condolences, saying, "We stand beside (MCSO) as they grieve the loss of their deputy. Abby Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, recorded their murderer's chilling command to go "down the hill". I'm hoping they found their guy or that maybe he knows more than he let on. Our community offers an alternative to subs that don't allow videos or podcast links as post submissions to kick off discussion. Was wearing a hat (most likely a camouflage hunting cap with ear flaps or pageboy cap), hooded sweatshirt, scarf, and blue jeans on the day of the Delphi murders. It's easy to. Idk if he's an actual suspect, but the police certainly jumped on the opportunity to detain him for his probation violations and have kept him in custody. Richard Allen, 50, [1] David and his family members all claimed that Ame is not his daughter. "It's amazing we have a video, we have a still photograph, we have sound and we don't know who this person is," he said. It's been a tragic week for law enforcement in our state. [12], Sammantha Allen was sentenced to death by lethal injection on August 7, 2017, for the charge of first-degree murder and to 74 years' imprisonment for the child abuse and conspiracy to commit child abuse charges. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- After five years, police made an arrest on Monday in the killing of two teens from Delphi. Identified the place he would hide likely from a nearby elevated position such as a deer lookout to watch and observe potential victim/s and where he would take them to torture/kill them. Cause of death for Libby and Abby has not been publicly released but two photos, a sketch of a possible suspect, and a brief audio clip of his voice have been released. "It was very hard to get through the grass and the terrain to get back. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. [15][16][17], Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 23:55, List of women on death row in the United States, "Phoenix girl's death in footlocker horrifies mom", "Details emerge of a life of horror for Phoenix girl who died", "Phoenix police: 4 people arrested in child's death", "Ame Deal's Father Trying to Bail Monsters Who Murdered His Daughter Out of Jail", "School officials in Utah reported abuse of Ame Deal", "Phoenix Police: Abuse of Ame Deal "Makes You Sick to Your Stomach. 2023 www.jconline.com. The sister of Liberty "Libby" German, one of the two teen girls found dead in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017, took to YouTube Tuesday to debunk conspiracies surrounding the unsolved killings. All rights reserved. Get out the door. It has also been mentioned that Daniel Nations girlfriend's first name starts with "K", (although I . "I don't sleep much," said Patty, knowing that the man in the sketch is walking the streets. Ame was said to be "chronically hungry". I don't know that the property owner is the murderer, but like many have said, I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone he knows in some way or another. I wish that they would have ALREADY found this scumbag and locked him up, buy I am still hopeful. "[When] I walked to the bridge, everything is so quiet and calm that it's almost as if that bridge is saying 'I dare you,' while trying to hide the fact that the girls died there. He made himself a media whore, and he sure is paying the price in the public eye. "I don't know if that's just me or what but that bridge and walking up to that bridge around the curve feel evil.". The case dominated local headlines at the time as the story unfolded, it went from a planned robbery to an unexpected murder-for-hire plot. Last week the children of Delphi started school. History of rape, assault, and/or domestic abuse, Was a lone killer, did not have an accomplice. I'll be checking back.. She spent Sunday marking the six-month anniversary of the girls' disappearance by visiting all of Abby's favorite fishing spots. I cannot believe that the suspect has yet to be identified. A friend of mine from Flora, IN says that it's true. We shall see if he is released or not. She attended most, if not, all, of the trials related to her husband and mother's murders but often dodged or declined to speak to reporters, reports indicated. He also hadfive grandchildren, three sisters and two brothers. If you look on a elevation map, its an extremely flat part in a hilly area. However, WISH-TV reported that Kline said he wasn't sure who else might have used or had access to the account. Or someone he allows on his property in some form or fashion. "If they were standing there now, there would have been foliage covering her view of the killer. May be familiar with the Delphi, Indiana area as well as the Meyers Lake/Bremer County areas of Iowa. Just off the square, the investigation command center remains open, where police still come and go daily, looking into tips that come in about the girls' murders. His wife, Marilyn Ruth Redmond, 47at the time, was also shot in the back of the head at their home in Phoenix thateveningand left for dead. Newsweek reached out to the Indiana State Police for comment but did not hear back in time for publication. Allen, who has entered . The only audio that has been released to the public from the phone is that of a man's voice ordering German and her friend, Abby Williams, "down the hill.". Ron Lukezic's wife at the time, Joyce Lukezic, was also accused of being involved in the planning. Deputy Ruiz's impact is felt in so many ways, including those who continue to wait for a life-saving organ. [1], The family had often moved and had lived in Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas and Tucson, Arizona, among other places. Finally sees exactly what he wants and ..you know the rest. Investigators have stated that they have compared notes on the Delphi and Evansdale cases and, while there are similarities, they do not believe the cases are related. May have explained this as having gone hiking or hunting. His Lawyers Say He Has "Nothing To Hide." An unsealed affidavit revealed new details about the 2017 killings of Libby German and Abby Williams including that the suspect told police five years ago he'd been near the crime scene. William Redmond, who went by "Pat" to those closest to him,was born in Huntington, West Virginia. The latest Arizona headlines, national news events of the day + sports and weather updates. I don't blame the police though. A short time after, deputies later found Hurley and took him into custody. It's such a tragic case, I can't shake it. Doesnt mean that was him or someone on his property that did it, Im just stating what seems to be the most obvious just from my perspective. It is possible that RL does know the killer. Reach Ron Wilkins at rwilkins@jconline.com. Maybe they already know who it is maybe they're following him and checking things out but they don't want to say anything yet they don't want to release anything either to the public. I have always had a passion for following true crime but for obvious reasons this case is really weighing heavy on my heart. Delphi killings background Abigail Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on a trail near the Monon High Bridge in Delphi on Feb. 13, 2017. [5] Before the family moved to Phoenix, Arizona, they were living in Ogden, Utah, where school officials claimed that they had reported many incidences of abuse and neglect about the family's children to the authorities. He drove by and saw them getting dropped off, Was on a adjacent property and spotted them, Access to some sort of trail cam? LAFAYETTE, Ind. The news outlets also speculated about a tattoo on Chadwell. The search resumed the next day and around noon, a searcher spotted the girls' bodies about 15m from the north bank of Deer Creek, on the 12-hectare property of 77-year-old Ron Logan, who was not considered a suspect. (WTHR) - State police say more audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. Police suspected foul play since Ame was found very dirty with bruises on her left leg, since it was in forced contact with the trunk. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. "I knew that something had happened," she said in court months later. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. That same friend, Floyd Kelly, said he and his wife, Verna, planned to attend a New Year's Eve party at the Redmond home the night of the murders. However, there are new developments with the owner of the property where the girls were found. Maybe they don't want to scare this guy off and have him leave town that's why they're keeping it hush-hush. I know the general crime scene is relatively secluded, but it was broad daylight and there was not one victim, but 2. He was a three-year veteran of the department. Published 2:05 AM PST Nov. 15, 2022 Updated 12:41 PM PST Nov. 29, 2022. Man arrested after explosives found in a checked-in bag. All were heading off to play or hang out together when they went missing Lyric & Elizabeth were riding bikes, Libby & Abby were walking on wooded trails. Murray Hooper is set to be executed on Nov. 16,marking Arizona's third execution since the state resumed themthis year after an eight-yearpause. Again, the rumor mill is turning. Its just blowing my mind that he hasnt been identified. Day 2: No contact, phones off (would have charged w friends to stay on SM), no one's seen them, all friends and friends moms and dads have replied no - we haven't seen them, early reports of a suspicious person walking on trails with a report made immediately to law enforcement the day before, before girls even disappeared indicating some guy walked quickly through trails and didn't . The plant, called Indiana Packers, is From a local: they process hogs into pork, and its a horrible job that a LOT of people who are otherwise unemployable, whether due to criminal backgrounds or poor references from prior employers, end up doing. The location where the girls bodies were found is only about 2.5-3 miles from the plant. The murder investigation's chief detective, who has heard the entire tape from which the audio fragment comes, describes the killer as having the "voice of the devil" coming through him. Nothing less is acceptable.". We didn't have that this year and I would have given anything to have had that. They didn'tappear to speak with news reporters at the time, andarepresentative for the family could not be reached for this story. That tells me he planned these murders very meticulously with nothing left to chance. Typically, he said, the group would spend the holiday at their favorite bar, Chester's Bar near 23rd Avenue and Indian School Road, where they'd met more than 10 years earlier. It is the Monon High Bridge, a hiking trail near the tiny Indiana town of Delphi, 100km northwest of Indianapolis. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. The jury was again deadlocked in Cruz'sthird trial but he was found guilty in 1988 after a fourth. The fact that LE had video and audio made me very hopeful that this monster would be captured. This was apparently the reason why the FBI got involved straight away. However, the cops have found nothing. Cynthia Stoltzmann and her mother's bond were each set at $500,000. The space between the gaps is not enough for your foot to slide through, unless you turn it sideways. Who Is Daniel Nations? The transcript showed that police pointed out that Kline was deceptive during a polygraph test when he was asked if he knew who killed the two girls, WISH-TV reported. There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. One of them also carried a briefcase,the AP reported. 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